Op Ed

Rittenhouse Verdict Gives New Defense For Killing

Shooters can claim self-defense because un-armed people might try and take their gun.

By - Dec 20th, 2021 12:58 pm
Smith & Wesson M&P15. Photo by Coldbolt, CC BY-SA 3.0 , via Wikimedia Commons

Smith & Wesson M&P15. Photo by Coldbolt, (CC BY-SA 3.0), via Wikimedia Commons

The Kyle Rittenhouse verdict has deadly implications for states such as Wisconsin that allow the open carrying of firearms.

One might be excused for thinking that the right to carry a gun does not give someone more discretion to kill others. After all, the Second Amendment’s language only confers a right to carry. A gun can easily be lethal. But this easy lethality should neither expand the gun owner’s privilege to use deadly force nor diminish the safety of others at the other end of the barrel.

Unfortunately, with Rittenhouse acquittal, the open-carry community now has an additional license to kill.

A person is privileged to use deadly force if he reasonably believes such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself. “Reasonable belief” is a community standard: We determine how much restraint is necessary before one is privileged to kill another, and in doing so, we place a value on the lives of others.

The Rittenhouse outcome in Kenosha suggests that the value we give a victim’s life can depend on whether or not the defendant was armed.

Defense lawyers were permitted to give significance to Rittenhouse’s rifle in arguing that deadly force was reasonable. They argued that Rittenhouse could consider the possibility of another person taking his gun and using it against him. An encounter between an armed person and an unarmed person suddenly became an encounter between two armed persons.

In the incident between Rittenhouse and Joseph Rosenbaum, the plastic bag in Rosenbaum’s hand effectively became an AR-15. Under this view of self-defense, Rittenhouse’s choice to put a gun in his hand puts a gun in our hand, too.

This view of self-defense means that by carrying a gun, Rittenhouse was authorized to use deadly force that if unarmed, he was not privileged to use. Rittenhouse’s use-of-force expert explained this twisted reality. Asked if deadly force against Rosenbaum would be reasonable had Rittenhouse been unarmed, the expert opined, “No.”

Thus, the defense’s own expert confirmed that it was only reasonable for Rittenhouse to kill Rosenbaum because Rittenhouse carried a firearm. Put another way, the defense lawyers asked the jury to assume an unarmed person was armed.

Obviously, being chased by a person wielding a plastic bag does not privilege you to kill that person. What was not obvious, at least until the Rittenhouse acquittal, is that if you carry a gun, you actually can kill a person running at you with a plastic bag. Rittenhouse was correct when he told Fox News host Tucker Carlson that his case was a win for the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment now apparently privileges the use of deadly force for an armed person that an unarmed person cannot use in the exact same circumstances.

A civilian with a gun can no longer truthfully claim it’s for self-defense. Under the law, his decision to carry a gun increases your vulnerability as it reduces the value of your life. A person with a gun can reasonably assume that aggressive movements toward them signals your intent to use their gun against them. The likelihood of violence is increased.

In a protest, confrontations between unarmed protesters and armed civilians are common. If an unarmed protester fails to submit to an armed civilian’s order to halt, can he shoot? It seems so.

What changes to Wisconsin law might help restore sanity? The state could add a provision to its self-defense statute so that carrying a firearm could not justify a defendant’s reasonable belief of imminent harm. In the courtroom, a defendant could not argue his fear of harm was informed by the possibility that the victim might use the defendant’s gun against him. The jury could consider the relevance of the defendant’s gun if, during the encounter, the victim gained control of the defendant’s firearm.

Under this approach, any increased danger caused by the carrying of a gun would be borne by the person who chose to carry it. So a jumpy trigger-finger would not be awarded any special privilege, and the lives of those who are unarmed would not be stripped of value.

This op ed was originally published by the Wisconsin State Journal.

Ion Meyn is an assistant professor at the University of Wisconsin Law School: meyn@wisc.edu.

Categories: Public Safety

4 thoughts on “Op Ed: Rittenhouse Verdict Gives New Defense For Killing”

  1. ringo muldano says:

    Kyle the child, killer.

  2. kaygeeret says:

    What have we come to? The Second Amendment clearly refers to a WELL REGULATED militia!

    Nothing about openly carrying assault weapons w/o a license!

    Nothing about an underage kid from ANOTHER STATE carrying an assault rifle he WAS NOT licensed to carry, and in fact could not carry legally in WI because of his age.

    Shooting a mentally ill man with a plastic bag and also shooting and killing a man carrying that always fatal weapon, a SKATEBOARD.

    And then, baby faced kid that he is crying on the stand and getting away with TWO MURDERS and crippling another gentleman who felt he was protecting others from a “live shooter”.

    WOW, what a nightmare and what a god awful precedent. I am in fact glad I am old because I am not confident that democracy will withstand the fascist forces lined up against it.

    I am profoundly saddened that WI, a state from which I used to be proud to be from, is a leader in the effort to destroy democracy and install a dictatorship.

    Robert LaFollette and many other WI patriots are spinning in their graves. Tommy Thompson remains the only voice of reason left in a once proud party.

  3. dmkrueger2 says:

    Rosenbaum aggressively ran after Rittenhouse despite Rittenhouse carrying a gun.
    Rosenbaum recognized Rittenhouse was weak even though Rittenhouse had a gun.
    Fortunately for Rittenhouse, a gun is the great equalizer for those less physically gifted.

    As for Huber and Grosskreutz, I applaud their willingness to stand up for what they perceived occurred (“active shooter”). Their just as honorable as Tate Myre except Tate Myre was actually engaging the bad guy.

  4. Mingus says:

    Based on the Rittenhouse logic, if someone tries to disarm a shooter who is intent on opening fire on a crowd in a public setting, the shooter can kill the person trying to stop the massacre and claim self defense. Rittenhouse could have been some right wing terrorist intent on murdering as many people as possible.

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