Michael Horne
Plenty of Horne

Mystery of the Curve’s Urinal

Russ Klisch and I set out to rescue a massive old urinal from a tavern about to be torn down. Then things got complicated.

By - Dec 12th, 2014 02:54 pm
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Walk-in urinal. Photo by Michael Horne.

Walk-in urinal. Photo by Michael Horne.

One Friday morning in December, this message appeared in my inbox:

“I have the key from Wiechman to get into the Curve.  Will head over there tomorrow after the Santas get out of our place and I’ll see if the urinal can be saved.”

I suppose this could stand a bit of explanation.

The communication was from Russ Klisch, the owner of Lakefront Brewery. The Curve, at 1634 N. Water St. was an old tavern that was about to be torn down for redevelopment as The Rhythm apartments. I had written a farewell review to the bar in September, mentioning the giant urinal that had been in the place for a very long time, and included a photo of it with my story. I called it the “walk-in urinal,” so huge was it.

Russ thought it would be an interesting artifact for his brewery, so he had contacted Jim Wiechmann, the landlord, to see if the porcelain utensil could be salvaged and to arrange to get the keys. But our adventure had to wait for the Santas — hundreds of them on bicycles for the annual Santa Rampage — to clear out of the Lakefront Brewery before we could start on our way.

“Just another day at Lakefront Brewery,” Russ said.

Once the Santas had dispersed, Russ and I gathered tools from the brewery’s workshop and headed across the river to N. Water St. see if we could capture our most unusual prize.

Standing at 45 inches tall, 14 inches deep at the top and 18 inches wide, the urinal dwarfs modern units. This unit was big, imposing, commodious, all-encompassing, and rather forgiving of careless aim. “It’s a can’t-miss urinal,” Russ said.

We did not expect it to be an easy chore to remove the behemoth from the spot it had occupied almost certainly for over a century — and likely a generation more than that. For one thing, the base of the appliance was cemented into the floor. And beneath the cement, we would soon learn, was yet another floor of terrazzo encasing the fixture. The thing was sunk a good five inches beneath the floor level.

I thought it would be a good idea to attack it from below the floorboards, but Russ pointed out there was no basement beneath the structure, and from the looks of it, no crawl space either.

And so we opted for sledgehammers. Armed with them, Russ and I took turns pounding away at the flooring that encased the urinal. Gradually the layers of concrete chipped away, revealing that terrazzo layer. A few hearty whacks began to cause cracks in the terrazzo, and shortly thereafter large chunks crumbled away into a void beneath the floor.

Once the base had been freed, I began to remove the molding that helped seal the device against the wall. This was a snap, and the molding yielded readily.

Now we expected to face the challenging part — digging beneath the urinal and cutting the pipe that certainly connected the unit to the building’s sewer drain.

But first, I gave the urinal a little pull to see how much resistance I could feel as I tried to pull it from the wall.

There was no resistance. The unit practically fell to the floor.

Russ and I wheeled a dolly into place, set down some protective covering to keep the urinal from getting chipped, and carefully tilted it away from the wall.

Cutting the drainpipe was not to be required. There was no pipe beneath the urinal.

For all these years, it had drained straight into the earth beneath the building, and was probably responsible for the considerable sagging noticeable in the exterior and interior of the old building, not to mention the smell.

We hauled the urinal out to Russ’s truck, and loaded it up for a trip to the brewery, where Russ hopes to restore it and return it to use there.

He is thinking of converting it to a “waterless urinal” (in a way that’s what it was). This time, however, it will be connected to a drain.

Before we departed, I took a few photographs of the interior of the very old building, including the upstairs living units. Here is your last look at the Curve, which surely had the city’s most unusual tavern urinal.

Last Look at the Curve

11 thoughts on “Plenty of Horne: Mystery of the Curve’s Urinal”

  1. terri bartlett, activity director says:

    Luther Manor has one like it in the men’s bathroom in the old part of the building, but it does use water and is hooked up, so that when the bathroom door opens the water runs. One of those big pink brick toilet bars sits in the drain to clean and refresh when the water turns on. Thought you might want to do the same if your going to use it.

  2. John Vebber says:

    This harkens me back to the biggest collection of “big”urinals ever. As a kid I spent considerable time playing in Lake Park and naturally availed myself to the LP pavilion restroom facilities. The men’s room in the lower level under what is now Bartolatta’s had several gigantic urinals.

    Years later I ventured down there after the Fourth of July Parade and alas, they had been replaced by the standard variety.

  3. Tom says:

    This one looks like the same make and model as the one at the Glarner Stube in New Glarus- http://www.urinal.net/glarner_stube/. Leff’s in in Tosa has a biggun’ as well- http://www.urinal.net/leffs/.

  4. Cy White says:

    Great story !
    Most of all thanks for caring.
    Thanks for saving a remarkable piece of Beer City History.
    Your efforts are appreciated…….

  5. Edward Margerum says:

    A pull chain cistern would be appropriate when you reinstall it.

  6. blurondo says:

    I’ve heard that the rules covering urnals of this size were created when Walter Kohler was governor. I can’t imagine why.

  7. Sam says:

    I never thought I’d read an entire article about an old urinal…but there you go.

  8. Jim says:

    I’d have to say that the biggest collection of “big” that I have seen in Milwaukee were at the Auditorium. Dozens of them, huge. Haven’t been there in a while so I’d imagine they are all gone now.

  9. Bill says:

    There’s gonna be a lot of hazardous waste to remove under there!

  10. Steve says:

    Ha! Tom, the Glarner Stube urinal is what immediately popped into my mind upon stumbling upon this article!

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