Milwaukee’s Cruise Ship Dock More Than Doubled In Cost, Is It Worth It?
Port says yes, at least one council member says no.
Milwaukee finds itself in a cruise ship arms race, but the cost is too much to bear for some in City Hall.
After the cost of a proposed cruise ship dock more than doubled, the issue came to a head Wednesday with port director Jackie Q. Carter stressing that the $17 million project was worth it and one alderman threatening to reallocate the proposed funding.
But it started out like a dream.
Viking Cruises‘ 2022 entry into Great Lakes cruising included making the city a turnaround port, where one trip ends and another begins. Turnarounds involve double the amount of passengers, as well as generating hotel stays and airport traffic, and yielding revenue from selling supplies to the vessels. It’s the exact kind of thing cities covet.
And it got better.
A mix of grants and land sale proceeds were to pay for the $7.3 million cruise ship dock, aimed at delivering a first-class experience and warding off any competing ports. More than 10,000 new tourists a year, and no city cash outlay.
Then things started spiraling.
First, the city failed to secure a U.S. Department of Commerce grant.
Then, the city allocated $80,000 to create a “Shangri La” design that would include more features to accommodate large vessels like the Octantis, including running sewer and water lines out to the dock.
“What keeps me up at night is if we don’t build South Shore correctly, Duluth is building a fantastic dock that will include all of these features,” said then-port director Adam Tindall Schlicht in August 2022. “Chicago coming online at Navy Pier keeps me up. Duluth and their investment in their downtown dock keeps me up.” More recently, port officials have warned that Muskegon, Michigan is also seeking the turnaround business.
Later in 2022, the city substituted the missed grant $2 million with city borrowing and officials said they had enough to move forward and open the dock by 2024, ending use of an industrial dock.
But the city quickly found out it didn’t have enough to build its original “bare minimum” design.
By 2023, costs had increased to more than $10 million said city budget officials.
By May 2024, the port arrived at its current figure of $17 million based on a revised design and expanded scope.
State grants would cover $4 million, with the department using $7.6 million it has retained in carryover funding and the Komatsu South Harbor Campus land sale as well $5.25 million in new borrowing.
City funds now account for more than the entire cost of the original proposal. But the proposal is also bigger in several ways.
Running sewer, water and electric service to the site is no longer just to serve Viking and other large ships. “We want to do development at that site,” said port director Jackie Q. Carter on Wednesday. A 2021 request for information drew no serious inquiries, said Carter, because of concerns with utilities and site preparation. She said the long-term vision for the site, located at the east end of Lincoln Avenue, is a mix of tourism and public access uses.
The dock itself is also bigger and far more complicated.
Viking operates two 666-foot-long, Seawaymax-sized vessels capable of carrying 378 passengers. The city’s initial plans called for a 110-foot-long platform, but after discussions with Viking and a review of the services provided at the Heavy Lift Dock, the port settled on a 363-foot-long platform that was also deeper than initially planned. Permanent utilities, as well as a paved road and dredging, would be added.
Opposition Emerges
“At $17 million, I have to say, I have problems with this project,” said Alderman Robert Bauman in Wednesday’s Public Works Committee meeting.
He said would introduce a budget amendment to reallocate the $5 million in new borrowing to street paving projects and a down-payment assistance program for new homeowners.
“Choose your dock or choose down-payment assistance,” said Bauman.
“If we don’t do this now, when will we do it?” asked Carter.
If the council approves the $5 million in funding, the dock, said Carter, could open in 2026. If it doesn’t approve the funding, the city could lose the state grant.
She said that while the port generated $305,000 in direct revenue in 2022, the benefits to the city are much larger. “Over the last three years, we are estimating very conservatively that we have seen about $7 million in economic impact,” said the port director. She said the direct revenue impact is even bigger now with the city’s new sales tax.
“I know these economic impact studies and in my humble opinion that they’re not worth the paper they’re printed on,” said Bauman.
“We exist to support businesses,” said Carter. She noted that the port also returns an operating profit to the city’s general fund.
“I get the argument. I don’t buy the numbers,” said Bauman.
Alderman Jonathan Brostoff joined Carter and Mayor Cavalier Johnson in backing the proejct. “We have to build the infrastructure to attract the commerce,” said the alderman.
“This project will aid to the growth of our entire city,” said Alderwoman Larresa Taylor.
Questions Beyond Economics
There are many open questions, including if Viking or another cruise line will agree to a long-term agreement and if the city can build a commercial development on the dock site, made of filled lakebed.
Carter believes the impact of the new dock and new competitors will allow the city to secure a long-term agreement with Viking or another cruise operator. But at the moment, it is proposed that the dock be built without a long-term tenant.
“There are a number of companies building ships that will also enter the Great Lakes,” she said. Viking hasn’t accepted a long-term deal with the city to date, which Carter said is partially because of the dock. “Right now, they don’t have to have that because there is nobody else that can do it, but there are more companies coming.”
Port officials have said that the South Shore site is the only practical option because of the size of the vessels. Viking upended the market by introducing Seawaymax passenger vessels, the largest ship size that can enter and exit the Great Lakes. And now other companies, said Carter, are following suit.
The city previously invested in a much smaller cruise ship dock at Pier Wisconsin, the Discovery World building. But Seawaymax vessels can’t fit there without tens of millions in dredging. The site accommodates vessels with up to a 16-foot draft, but Viking ships have a 27-foot draft.
The city has used its industrial Heavy Lift Dock in the inner harbor so far.
“They keep coming back, so it’s adaquete in the eys of the cruise ship operator,” said Bauman.
“Right now, we are one of the only Great Lakes ports that can accommodate this level of activity,” said Carter. “Right now, we don’t have a lot of competition. That’s going to change.”
She said in addition to improving the infrastructure, the city needs to improve its curb appeal.
“The aesthetics is what we’re missing,” said Carter to the Board of Harbor Commissioners on Oct. 10. She noted the sewage treatment plant is next door to the Heavy Lift Dock.
But Bauman doesn’t like the site on the edge of Bay View. “This is an awful unattractive site,” he said. “You’re out in the middle of nowhere.”
The cruise ship dock would be built atop a 50-acre landfill created in 1975 as part of a dredging effort. It would be located east of the Lake Express ferry terminal.
The alderman noted you can’t walk to anything from that site, nor is there nearby transit service.
“They’re not getting off and walking,” said Carter. “They’re getting off and getting on tours that have been prearranged.”
There is also the question of the state’s Public Trust Doctrine, which prevents commercial development on filled lake bed.
Carter said, citing the Harbor House restaurant, that the port could navigate the challenges. But Bauman said that is no certainty and cited the state law change that was necessary to enable The Couture.
“Has there been any conversations with our City Attorney on that?” asked Brostoff.
Not explicitly, said Carter. However, she noted that the City Attorney’s office sends an attorney to each Harbor Commission meeting.
“They are aware of the wish,” said Bauman.
Carter said the port is aware of the challenges and is working on avoiding any issues. She said the port has looked at Muskegon’s chalets, which allow a rotating group of businesses to sell to tourists.
But Bauman isn’t sold.
“To put this in context. This $17 million is a local share for a streetcar extension,” said the alderman. “And we’re puttig it in a dock for Viking because the other ships can use other docks.”
“What a lively exchange,” said Brostoff after more than a half hour of debate.
“Whatever the council does decide, the port is doing exactly what we want them to do,” said Alderwoman Milele A. Coggs of the effort to create a revenue stream. “These are good debates to be having.”
“If we don’t take a risk like most entrepreneurs, we won’t see the return,” said area Alderwoman Marina Dimitrijevic during the Oct. 16 budget hearing. “This was like a dream a couple years ago, now it’s getting to be reality.”
The full council will adopt the budget on Nov. 8.
Cruising Stats
The 2025 cruise season is already estimated to be a slower one, with 21 ship visits and 9,500 passengers. That’s down from 27 calls and 13,568 passengers in 2024.
That’s because one of Viking’s two vessels will leave the market.
“Next year, about halfway through the season, they’re going to pull that ship and do some itineraries outside of the Great Lakes, but they’re going to come back in 2026,” said Carter during her department’s budget presentation on Oct. 16. She said the port is already booking 2026 business. “We are not concerned about that decrease for next year. We will see that rebound.”
Port Milwaukee has a 20-year commitment from the smaller Pearl Seas to lease the Pier Wisconsin dock
In addition to Viking and Pearl Seas, vessels from American Queen Voyages (the former Victory Cruise Lines), Ponant Explorers and Vantage have visited Milwaukee in recent years.
Viking Octantis Tour Photos From Inaugural 2022 Visit
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Having recently experienced a Virgin Cruise leaving from Miami, I noted that there were many opportunities for transit to and from the rather spartan Miami and destination docks to nearby site-seeing opportunities. Uber & Lyft in Miami, to golf carts and site-seeing day tours in buses that transported travelers. The tours were cultural, tasting, drinking, and recreational opportunities. This is a great opportunity for the Port, the City, the State, and the Convention and Visitor’s Bureau to team up and create some wonderful day tours and transportation resources that would impress visitors.
And oh yes, it is definitely worth the investment!
There is no such thing as a ‘cruise ship dock’. There is such a thing as a ‘cruise ship terminal’.
The vessels doing turnarounds are all doing international voyages, and consequently a complete suite of requirements from the CBP (US Customs & Border Patrol) must be fulfilled. Please see https://dsmic.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Duluth-Superior-Cruise-Ship-Terminal-Study.pdf (All 113 pages of it!) for an excellent discussion pertaining to this.
BTW, Viking’s ship draft is approximately 20 feet, not 27 feet. The 27-foot depth comes from the Seaway regulations.
I have had discussions with the (I think current) previous attorney for the DNR, he said ‘very likely’ in letting commercial activity occur there. The long and short of it is that the DNR would be instantly sued by what could be dozens of entities wanting to know why Milwaukee Port gets an OK, and they (the other entities) didn’t. So it has nothing to do with whatever persuasive argument Milwaukee could put forward to the DNR. BTW- A) Harbor House is not a good example, it’s apparently a very funny story. B) The Lake Express Terminal doesn’t have a bar, restaurant, gift shop, etc. because they knew the DNR wouldn’t allow it. Revenue from such things would have been a giant pile of money for LE.
I’ve been on a number of Hapag-Lloyd Great Lakes cruises, and the captain always noisily bitches about the lousy facilities as soon as he’s out of hearing range.
“A 2021 request for information drew no serious inquiries” … that’s funny, the guy that submitted it led Honolulu’s nearly $200,000,000 Cruise Port Terminal Project, now built.
I am a very enthusiastic supporter of Great Lakes cruising for Milwaukee, it is just that it has to be done correctly.
Thank you for this reporting.
Separately from the DNR/filled lakefront rules –
How long does it take to get from the foot of East Lincoln Avenue
to any tourist destination? Hotel?
Is there better use of this location?
How many competitors are there for this and how nimble are they?
Will we be playing catch-up/crack the whip in the future?
(The Bradley Center lasted all of one generation)
Should we be dedicating this much money, space and infrastructure
to a sector of the economy vulnerable to economic
downturns, new pan/plandemics, lease renewals?
Marty Ellenbecker:
You can get to downtown in less than 10 minutes from there.
Considering the economic sector that buys GL cruises (rich people), I don’t see that part of the business going anywhere if the economy goes South. There are very, very few locals that book these things.
I don’t know what you mean by competitors. Do mean vessel operators or terminal operators? If you mean other ports, the leading contenders are Duluth and Sault Ste Marie. Chicago got tired of international vessels at their pier, and the logistics were/are a pain in the a$$. Detroit, in the middle of a river, is a long way from the next port. Lines using Alpena as a call is a very funny story outside the scope of this message.
It’s very important to note that Milwaukee was NOT chosen because of it’s destination value. It was chosen because it’s 1) close to ORD, and 2) it’s cheap to dock here. Every last operator would dump Milwaukee in a New York minute, if say, Racine decided to fund something that’s technically exactly what they need. The city of Milwaukee people really need to understand that.
Non-GL area people want to see 2 things during their cruise: Mackinac Island and Lake Superior. They want those 2 destinations because those are the only 2 they are familiar with. Lake Huron is a better destination in my opinion, but nobody has ever heard of that, so that’s that.
One of the major components of this plan originally was to create a complete destination there, namely a selection of places to go to and sit and drink, eat, and/or be entertained for most of the day or evening.
One of the downsides of that space (about 5 acres), is that there is nowhere nearly enough land to contain the number of parking spaces you need to facilitate the number of people you need to make it financially viable. (vessel dockage will never be enough money to make it viable on it’s own, you need locals spending money there year-round) This is an added expense I don’t know if the Port figured in or not, but an at least 3-story parking ramp would probably be needed to contain that. Whether reclaimed lakebed can support a heavy parking ramp is another technical question.
To be clear about the parking, that is not for cruise passengers. It’s for locals coming in to use the entertainment facilities there. The vast majority domestic of GL passengers come from: the East US Coast, West US Coast, Florida(!), and AZ. I don’t have the latest numbers, but a very substantial number of passengers are international.