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Johnson Has Shouting Match With Reporter

Senator defends his call for investigating 2020 election in heated interview with NBC’s Chuck Todd.

By , Wisconsin Public Radio - Jan 4th, 2021 10:22 am
Ron Johnson. Photo by Gage Skidmore from Peoria, AZ, United States of America / CC BY-SA (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0)

Ron Johnson. Photo by Gage Skidmore from Peoria, AZ, United States of America / (CC BY-SA)

U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson doubled down on his calls to investigate allegations of voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election in a heated interview Sunday that, at times, devolved into shouting.

The interview, on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” came a day after Johnson announced he would join an effort with 10 Republican senators to object to the certification of the Electoral College count when Congress meets to do so Wednesday.

The statement, which U.S. Sens. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, and Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., joined among others, called for the creation of a commission with “full investigatory and fact-finding authority” to conduct an emergency audit of the 2020 election returns, citing “unprecedented allegations of voter fraud.”

On Sunday, Johnson argued that an investigation into the election would not be harmful to the democratic process, but instead would instill trust in the process for supporters of President Donald Trump, many of whom don’t trust the results.

“The fact of the matter is that we have a(n) unsustainable state of affairs in this country where we have tens of millions of people that do not view this election result as legitimate,” Johnson said.

Former U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr said in December that the U.S. Department of Justice found no evidence of widespread voter fraud that had the power to change the outcome of the 2020 election. And according to an NBC News analysis, as of mid-December, nearly all legal challenges filed by Trump’s lawyers or his supporters have either been blocked by the courts, settled or withdrawn. Six lawsuits challenging the results in Wisconsin were either dismissed or denied by the courts, according to the analysis.

In a statement Sunday, former U.S. House Speaker Paul Ryan, a fellow Wisconsin Republican, issued a statement criticizing the move and calling President-elect Joe Biden‘s victory “entirely legitimate.”

“Efforts to reject the votes of the Electoral College and sow doubt about Joe Biden’s victory strike at the very foundation of our republic,” Ryan said in a statement. “It is difficult to conceive of a more anti-democratic and anti-conservative act than a federal intervention to overturn the results of state-certified elections and disenfranchise millions of Americans. The fact that this effort will fail does not mean it will not do significant damage to American democracy.”

Johnson’s Sunday interview with “Meet the Press” host Chuck Todd turned into a shouting match multiple times, with both at one point telling the other to “look in the mirror” and acknowledge their roles in perpetuating conspiracy theories about voter fraud in the 2020 election, and the declining trust in the mainstream media respectively.

Voting to certify the Electoral College results will happen Wednesday before a joint session of Congress.

In the statement Saturday, Johnson and others acknowledged that many members of Congress, including members of the Republican party, will likely still vote to certify Biden’s Electoral College win Wednesday, saying the group is “not naive.”

Ron Johnson Doubles Down On Calls For Investigation Of 2020 Election In Fiery Interview was originally published by Wisconsin Public Radio.

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3 thoughts on “Johnson Has Shouting Match With Reporter”

  1. Dan Wilson says:

    Chuck Todd is not a reporter. He hosts a news show and once every blue moon he challenges a guest.

  2. mkwagner says:

    RonJon’s hypocrisy, professionalism, as well as his lack of integrity were on full display during his appearance with Chuck Todd. This shameless exhibit of political pandering on Sunday is a direct contradiction of his stand during the investigation of the improprieties of the 2016 election. Of course the difference is that Trump and RonJon won in 2016. This year Trump was soundly defeated.
    RonJon’s behavior leads any thoughtful constituent to wonder, Does he care more for his own power than the oath he took to defend the Constitution?

  3. gjb says:

    When are we going to get rid of this goof-ball? If Johnson runs again and Wisconsin re-elects him we have no one to blame but ourselves.

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