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		<title>East Library Gains Zoning Approval, Rest of District Held</title>
		<link>http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2012/05/21/east-library-gains-zoning-approval-rest-of-district-held/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2012 22:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeramey Jannene</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Residents are still a little restive about it, but the East Side's buildings are likely to get a little higher, to judge by the results of today's City Plan Commission meeting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div id="attachment_12667" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 600px"><a href="http://urbanmilwaukee.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/LB2toLB3.jpg"><img class="size-large wp-image-12667" title="Example of the minimums allowed by LB2 compared to LB3" src="http://urbanmilwaukee.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/LB2toLB3-590x168.jpg" alt="Example of the minimums allowed by LB2 compared to LB3" width="590" height="168" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Example of the minimums allowed by LB2 compared to LB3</p></div>
<p>Residents are still a little restive about it, but the East Side&#8217;s buildings are likely to get a little higher, to judge by the results of today&#8217;s City Plan Commission meeting.</p>
<p>The Commission approved up-zoning (higher height limits) for the project to replace the East Library, while a broader proposal for a similar up-zoning along the rest of along E. North Ave was held. This approval keeps The Standard at East Library on track for a spring 2014 opening. Meanwhile it remains to be seen if up-zoning for all of E. North Avenue  can be completed before a rumored development for the former Prospect Mall comes forward. Besides raising minimum and maximum heights, the zoning changes also permit greater density, while requiring designs more conducive to walkable neighborhoods.</p>
<p>Two years in the making, the proposed up-zoning is part of the continuing evolution of E. North Ave from the river to Prospect Ave, and springs from the same effort that created the <a href="http://www.theeastside.org/categories/14-architectural-review-board/documents/60-east-side-architectural-review-board-application-and-procedures">East Side Architectural Review Board</a>. The two zoning changes were introduced as separate items because of the time sensitive nature of the library redevelopment, despite the fact that it is located on North Avenue.</p>
<h3>East North Avenue</h3>
<div id="attachment_12671" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 237px"><a href="http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2012/05/21/east-library-gains-zoning-approval-rest-of-district-held/lb3-area/" rel="attachment wp-att-12671"><img class="size-medium wp-image-12671" title="Proposed Area to Zone LB3" src="http://urbanmilwaukee.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/LB3-area-227x250.jpg" alt="Proposed Area to Zone LB3" width="227" height="250" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Proposed Area to Zone LB3</p></div>
<p>First up before the commission was the proposal to up-zone E. North Ave&#8217;s zoning classification from Local Business 2 (LB2) to Local Business 3 (LB3), which would  raise the minimum heights for buildings to 30 feet (up from 18), and the maximum heights to 75 feet (up from 60).</p>
<p>Department of City Development (DCD) planner Greg Patin explained the rational behind the changes, noting the city had previously reformed its zoning codes, but had not created enough options for districts. The Department believes that some recent developments have not fit in as well as they could have, and that these code changes would rectify the situation. Patin noted that recent developments in the area, such as UWM&#8217;s residence halls and Columbia St. Mary&#8217;s Hospital, are excluded from the boundaries of the proposed change from LB2 to LB3 as they already have special zoning accommodations beyond what LB2 allows.</p>
<p>He noted that the LB3 zoning district is a completely new zoning classification created by the city that allows for greater minimum and maximum heights as well as increased density. It was designed to create additional options for zoning districts, and to reduce the number of planned developments (projects which require special zoning exemptions on a site-by-site basis). This new zoning designation also requires a greater street frontage and taller ground level windows. For those thirsty for more details, DCD has produced <a href="http://urbanmilwaukee.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/LB3.pdf">a presentation in PDF format</a> that further explains the new LB3 designation.</p>
<p>Jim Plaisted, Executive Director of the East Side Business Improvement District, spoke in favor of the changes, but two neighbors were opposed.</p>
<p>Cindy Kluge, speaking on behalf of the Greenwich Village Neighborhood Assocation, asked for the matter to be postponed until the area&#8217;s neighborhood associations have more time to review the proposal. Her association is in favor of zoning change around North Avenue, but would like the heights to taper off as they get away from North Ave.</p>
<p>Pam Frautschi, President of the East Side Milwaukee Community Council, said her group basically supports the position of the Greenwich Village Neighborhood Association. She stated that the density allowed is one aspect of the zoning change the East Side Milwaukee Community Council opposes.</p>
<p>Alderman Nik Kovac spoke at length on the proposed changes. He noted it has been a two year process to get this point, and that this isn&#8217;t something that has &#8220;dropped out of left field.&#8221; He stated that the entire portion of the proposal south of Thomas Ave is non-controversial, and that city officials had worked with neighborhood groups on these changes. As an example, Kovac noted that everything on the west side of Murray Ave, north of Thomas Ave, is to be left as LB2. He also stated that he felt that for Murray Ave 75 feet is probably too high, but also that 18 feet (the existing minimum) is too low. He noted that there is some urgency to moving this forward as a Prospect Mall proposal is in the works.</p>
<p>There was some discussion of a compromise to remove the up-zoning north of Thomas Ave, which Kluge said she generally supported, but added that her other concern is &#8220;public process,&#8221; that the neighborhood association needed more time to review the proposed changes.</p>
<p>Ultimately, the up-zoning was held until the next meeting of the commission on a 3 to 2 vote.</p>
<h3>East Library</h3>
<div id="attachment_11806" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 260px"><a href="http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2012/03/28/city-land-sale-for-east-library-redevelopment-held-at-committee/01_fullview-2/" rel="attachment wp-att-11806"><img class="size-medium wp-image-11806" title="East Library Full View" src="http://urbanmilwaukee.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/01_FullView-655x417.png" alt="East Library Full View" width="250" height="159" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">The Standard at East Library</p></div>
<p>The East Libary zoning change, from LB2 to the new LB3, was brought before the Plan Commission today in order to allow the East Library RFP winners, HSI Properties and WiRED Properties, to move forward with their plan to gain U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) financing approval.</p>
<p>Unlike the broader North Ave up-zoning, no one spoke against the changes for the East Library site. Alderman Kovac explained that although there isn&#8217;t universal support for the design plans for the new mixed-use library, there is a lot of support, and this zoning change is needed to move the project forward.</p>
<p>The City Plan Commission unanimously recommended for approval the change from LB2 to LB3 for the East Library site.</p>
<p>The East Libary will be the first property in the site to be zoned LB3 if confirmed by the Common Council.</p>
<p>For past coverage of the redevelopment of the East Library, see our <a href="http://urbanmilwaukee.com/category/neighborhoods/east-side/east-library/">East Library category page</a>.</p>
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		<title>UWM Prospect Mall Parking Lot Dorm Renderings</title>
		<link>http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2008/09/04/uwm-prospect-mall-parking-lot-dorm-renderings/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeramey Jannene</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boulder Ventures provided us with a rendering of their proposed dorm for the Prospect Mall parking lot on the east side of Prospect Avenue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boulder Ventures provided us with a rendering of their proposed dorm for the Prospect Mall parking lot on the east side of Prospect Avenue.  Click on the image for a full-sized rendering.</p>
<p><a href="http://urbanmilwaukee.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/conceptual-rendering2.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-606" title="conceptual-rendering2" src="http://urbanmilwaukee.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/conceptual-rendering2-300x189.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="189" /></a></p>
<p>The site as it stands now looks as such.  Again, a high-res image is available by clicking on the image itself.</p>
<p><a href="http://urbanmilwaukee.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/prospectmallparkinglot.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-607" title="prospectmallparkinglot" src="http://urbanmilwaukee.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/prospectmallparkinglot-300x171.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="171" /></a></p>
<p>Clearly the dorm would be an improvement over the stand-alone Qdoba and surface parking lot.  It might even help hide the gas station.</p>
<p>Our full review of the meeting where Boulder Ventures presented their vision for the site is <a href="http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2008/09/03/prospect-mall-uwm-site-meeting-review/">available in a past article</a>.</p>
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		<title>Prospect Mall UWM Site Meeting &#8211; Review</title>
		<link>http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2008/09/03/prospect-mall-uwm-site-meeting-review/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeramey Jannene</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Maryland Avenue School played host to a tension-filled meeting to discuss one of three proposals for the location of the new UWM dorm. The proposal on the table was the nearby Prospect Mall parking lot location proposed by Boulder Ventures.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPDATE: <a href="http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2008/09/04/uwm-prospect-mall-parking-lot-dorm-renderings/">Renderings have now been made available to us by Boulder Ventures</a>.</p>
<p>The Maryland Avenue School played host to a tension-filled meeting to discuss one of three proposals for the location of the new UWM dorm.  The proposal on the table was the nearby Prospect Mall parking lot location proposed by Boulder Ventures.</p>
<p>The meeting began with Alderman Nik Kovac introducing those in the audience who would take questions.  They included Robert Schmidt from Boulder Ventures and their project consultant Doug Weas, David Gilbert from the UWM Real Estate Foundation, UWM Director of University Housing Scott Peak, Vice Chancellor for University Relations    and Communications Tom Luljak and UWM Chief of Police Pamela Hodermann.</p>
<p>Following the introductions by Kovac, Robert Schmidt gave a presentation with Doug Weas.  Their presentation hit all the high-level facts of the building and Doug drilled into so more low-level aspects including what aspects of the building would qualify it for LEED-certification.  As Robert Schmidt listed off many nearby amenities for freshman (the proposed residents) the crowd began to moan and groan &#8220;bars&#8221;.  Other details of the development included in the presentation included that it was to be 8 to 10 stories tall with 40 to 45 students per Resident Assistant (an average amount) on each floor.  The first floor was to be entirely retail with 37 parking spots (some of which would be surface spots).  Students would enter from Ivanhoe Place and go to the second floor where all of the standard dorm facilities would be.  There would be 70 keycard protected parking spots for students separate from the parking for the retail facilities.</p>
<p>At the conclusion of Boulder Ventures presentation it was clear that their presentation may have been tailored to the wrong audience.  While the presentation may have sold the university, city officials, and other Milwaukeeans on the proposal, their presentation I think did little to ease the fears of the Not-In-My-Backyard (NIMBY) Water Tower Landmark Trust and Greenwich Village neighborhood associations who were at the meeting.  That said, I&#8217;m not sure there is anything Robert Schmidt could have said that would have pleased the attendees.</p>
<p>As a current Milwaukee college student at MSOE, an almost 22-year-old, and a friend to well over 100 UWM students, I would like to address some the fear about students and bars.  Freshman aren&#8217;t 21, and therefore can&#8217;t legally enter bars.  If they are entering bars without fake IDs, then you have a problem with a bar (and I would safely say these bars don&#8217;t really exist on the East Side, my under-21 friends continue to search though).  This raises the fake ID question, to which I will boldly assert that no more than 5% of college students in Milwaukee have a fake ID and use it.  That percentage is even lower for freshman, the proposed residents of the new UWM dorm.  Many claim to have one (from an older sibling or whomever) but never use it, presumably out of fear that it wouldn&#8217;t actually work because it doesn&#8217;t actually look like them.  The point of my detailing this is that under-21 students don&#8217;t really go to the bars in Milwaukee, especially during their first year in college (they don&#8217;t have friends that can go yet, therefore have less interest in going).  The bars could be in the bottom of the building, the students still wouldn&#8217;t be going to them.</p>
<p>The development would be located on the former Prospect Mall parking lot and including the land that currently that the Qdoba is currently on.  The gas station (not owned by Boulder Ventures) would be left unchanged.  Prospect Mall, currently empty, would have far greater support for redevelopment with the dorm located across the street.  Schmidt indicated that locating the dorm across the street, would help Boulder reach their vision for Prospect Mall.  The vision includes removing the current false facade so that the original brick is visible (similar to the nearby Alterra) and adding two to three stories on the top of the mall.  The old spaces would presumably be filled with retail, while the upper levels could be offices.  Questioning later in the meeting revealed that the mall lost all but one of its tenants after Marcus closed their cinema (which Schmidt said they attempted to negotiate with to stay to no avail).  The final remaining tenant was relocated because the cost to keep the entire mall open for one tenant was too high.</p>
<p>Now what college students do like to do when they&#8217;re bored and the opportunity presents itself is go to keg parties.  As a number of the UWM representatives indicated the keg parties got out of hand (i.e. got busted by the police) when they were held by freshman and students who had never lived in the dorms.  Tom Luljak had information from enrollment figures indicating that with the opening of RiverView dorms, 300 less students lived off-campus.  This means less stress on the neighborhood and less opportunities for out of control keg parties.  Another new dorm is only going to further improve things for neighbors, by making it possible for more owner-occupancy or family rentals with more students living in campus housing.  At the end of the day what you end up with is fewer big keg parties.  Small gatherings of students where underage drinking happens will still exist, but I don&#8217;t think any complaints originate from neighbors when students drink moderately inside without making noise or littering the sidewalk.  If mandatory freshman on-campus housing happens (which is what UWM is working towards), crazy keg parties are going to be very few and far between.</p>
<p>Back to the presentation.</p>
<p>Immediately following the presentation, the first question was a statement from a nearby neighbor asking everyone in the audience to join together and oppose the project.  This included the belief that UWM had broken a promise with the neighborhood never to have underclassmen live in dorms in this neighborhood.  Tom Luljack clarified that the memorandum of understanding that was signed indicated only that upperclassmen would only live in the nearby Kenilworth building (exposing a problem with memorandum of understandings in that everyone hears what they want to hear regardless of what ends up written).</p>
<p>UPDATE: We have <a href="http://urbanmilwaukee.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/kenilworth-redevelopment-mou.pdf">obtained the Memorandum of Understanding and posted it for you to interpret</a>.</p>
<p>During Luljak&#8217;s initial answer he was interrupted almost immediately by someone in the audience.  Interrupting UWM representatives and the Boulder Ventures team became the norm for the rest of the night, which was certainly disappointing to those actually looking for a reasonable and civil discussion.</p>
<p>After Doug Weas and UWM were grilled repeatedly for breaking a promise they claimed not to have made (and claim to have a memorandum that backs that up), it was time to move on to other things the neighborhood thought was wrong with the project.</p>
<p>Neighbors were concerned about the historical nature of their neighborhood and how this dorm would affect that.  While the neighbors certainly have a valid interest in preserving their historic homes, it&#8217;s very ironic that they&#8217;re interested in protecting a large surface parking lot, empty shopping mall, and Qdoba restaurant (to which they later indicated was a major safety concern because of delivery trucks).  The reality of the situation is that the new dorm would be largely hidden by a seven story building immediately east of it and consistent with new development in the area including the next door Whole Foods (Medical Commons building) and Columbia-St. Mary&#8217;s hospital complex.  These developments are not threatening to the neighborhood because they are infill developments replacing underdeveloped properties.  As long as residents don&#8217;t sell their homes to absentee slumlords they have nothing to worry about (and as stated earlier, there will be fewer and fewer slumlords if UWM gets its way and eliminates a large amount of their tenant base.  The historical factor kept popping up again and again throughout the meeting, and it was really humorous to watch people defend a massive surface parking lot as if it had historical significance.</p>
<p>The issue of parking was brought up.  It was clear that residents don&#8217;t believe that dorm residents don&#8217;t bring cars to campus (as they sign an agreement that they won&#8217;t if they don&#8217;t rent an on-campus parking spot), despite UWM&#8217;s assurances they do (including having the agreement on hand).  In my personal experiences (and post-meeting survey) I was able to come up with only person who brought a car to school &#8220;illegally&#8221; freshman year (and hid it in the Columbia property parking garage).  The simple fact of that matter is that the cars are generated by commuters and off-campus residents.  The dorm would actually reduce the number of cars in the neighborhood.  The dorm is also located directly on the 30 bus route (which students can ride for free with their Upass) and would also be serviced by the UWM shuttle bus (currently serves Kenilworth and Riverview every 15 minutes until 10 p.m.).  This is not to mention the cutting-edge car sharing program UWM has implemented in partnership with <a href="htttp://www.zipcar.com">Zip Car</a>.  UWM does a good job promoting and demanding a car-free lifestyle.</p>
<p>Despite facts in opposition, the meeting attendees almost unanimously voiced their concern via booing, hissing, and actually talking that the proposed dorm would make their already heavily congested neighborhood a nightmare.  The stance that appeared to be held by many was that &#8220;we need to have our cars and Park Lafayette was the final straw, we can&#8217;t let anyone else have cars in our neighborhood other than us.&#8221;  Numerous people suggested a 700-car parking garage for the dorm or a parking stall for every bed.  They also indicated that both the hospital construction site (soon to be a non-issue) and the Qdoba delivery trucks (could and would be redesigned with the new dorm) were creating traffic hazards.</p>
<p>Neighbors had concerns with the density of the project and the process by which zoning would be changed. Alderman Nik Kovac responded to these questions.  He stated his position that he believed much of North Avenue should be up-zoned to allow for higher density, mixed-use projects to be built with ease. Alderman Kovac didn&#8217;t comment if he thought this development (proposed at 8 to 10 stories) would be out of character for the neighborhood, although I think the new, dense hospital complex across the street makes the thought that it wouldn&#8217;t ridiculous.</p>
<p>A few people demanded that the neighborhood associations bond together to prevent the dorm from being built from where they didn&#8217;t want it to (which appears to be anywhere).</p>
<p>A couple clearly individuals attacked UWM&#8217;s use of diesel buses to move students from the dorms to the campus as not environmentally friendly.  While concern over the noise of the buses may a legitimate issue (and something hybrid buses could help with), attacking a heavily-used bus line as not being environmentally friendly is just funny.</p>
<p>Sura Faraj, Riverwest resident and former 3rd District Aldermanic candidate, spoke up criticizing the lack of a discussion on the &#8220;nitty gritty&#8221; of the building being green.  She dismissed the partial green roof and demanded a full green roof.  She also said that it wasn&#8217;t worth discussing a building being built in an urban location, replacing a parking lot, and being located along a transit route, because that just happened with the site.  She dismissed these things as not green, just part of the site.  She called for the university to be proactive with the building.  Basic LEED certification wasn&#8217;t enough for her, she wanted the university to aim for Gold or Platinum certification, the highest of LEED certifications.  Urbanism, a naturally green lifestyle, that discourages car use, generates less run-off than suburban buildings, and consumes less power is apparently not enough for some.</p>
<p>The final large concern of the night was safety.  Not that the students were criminals (which had been largely insinuated for the rest of the night by many), but that they attract crime.  Many members of the audience complained of an increase in crime around UWM in the past few years (to which UWM was largely dismissive of and said they didn&#8217;t think stats fell on the neighbors side).  The paradoxical issue of putting more cops on the street always causes an increase in reported crime was never discussed, even though putting more officers was repeated over and over again.  Others suggested that North Avenue was now a crime-haven and that the dorm would only attract more criminals that would mug the new students.  The discussion of safety ended without any real resolution and really had no bearing on this specific site.  The simple fact is that by putting more eyes on the streets (be it waiting at a bus stop, walking down the street, or simply someone looking out their window) lowers the odds of getting mugged.  The proposed dorm would be a good step to building a safer neighborhood by leveraging one of densities inherent advantages.</p>
<p>At the end of the meeting, Kovac pulled no punches indicating his support by telling the UWM representatives that he fully supported <a href="http://www.uwmdowntown.org">building the proposed engineering campus downtown</a>.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see what comes to the table the rest of the week.  At the end of the meeting I was highly discouraged to see such an angry NIMBY crowd oppose something that could actually improve the entire east side of Milwaukee without damaging their homes.</p>
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		<title>UWM Picks Our Three Favorite Dorm Sites As Finalists</title>
		<link>http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2008/08/15/uwm-picks-our-three-favorite-dorm-sites-as-finalists/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeramey Jannene</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee Real Estate Foundation announced the final three sites (narrowed from a field of eight) for the new 500 to 700 bed dorm to be built.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&amp;date=8/14/2008&amp;id=44816">The University of Wisconsin &#8211; Milwaukee Real Estate Foundation announced the final three sites</a> (narrowed from a field of <img src='http://urbanmilwaukee.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> for the new 500 to 700 bed dorm to be built.</p>
<p>In alphabetical order they were&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Boulder Venture: The old Prospect Mall at 2217-2239 N. Prospect Ave. and parking lot at 2214-2228 N. Prospect Ave. between Ivanhoe Place and Kenilworth Place. The Prospect Mall building, bought by Boulder Venture in 2004, has about 42,000 square feet.</p>
<p>Mandel Group, Inc.: Property that abuts Milwaukee River corridor, E. North Ave., N. Cambridge Ave. and Wisconsin Paperboard, 1514 E. Thomas Ave.</p>
<p>Phelan Development, LLC and Towne Investments: 1744 N. Farwell Ave. (southeast corner of N. Farwell Ave. and E. Royall Place).</p></blockquote>
<p>Our picks for the three best sites were&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Best sites currently for the new UWM freshman dormitory</strong></p>
<p>1. Prospect Mall Site<br />
2. Near Brady Street Site<br />
3. Hometown Site</p></blockquote>
<p>The same three sites.  Now we&#8217;re not vein or ignorant enough to think that anyone from UWM based their decisions off <a href="http://urbanmilwaukee.com/2008/08/07/where-is-the-new-uwm-dorm-going/">our conclusions</a>.  It is possible though they used some of the same logic we did though to get to their conclusion.  They obviously have much more data than we do, but at this point let&#8217;s go over again what we know about each site.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Site #1 &#8211; The Prospect Mall</strong><br />
Actual Location: Prospect Avenue between Ivanhoe Place &amp; Kenilworth Place<br />
What’s There Now: Former Prospect Mall, currently empty, along with surface parking lot across Farwell<br />
Note: We have heard that this project would potentially only use the east side of Prospect, the surface parking lot and Qdoba. We are unsure how it would integrate into the currently empty mall. If this is true, it could change our ranking (see bottom of article) of the site.  <strong>UPDATE</strong> We contacted Boulder Venture to clarify this question but they are unable to comment on the proposal at this time.</p>
<p>Pros</p>
<ul>
<li>Close to other dorm (Kenilworth) and close to campus</li>
<li>On an existing bus route (30)</li>
<li>Uses a currently unused property</li>
<li>Would help area businesses by delivering 500 new customers</li>
<li>Would please students to be close to other students</li>
</ul>
<p>Cons</p>
<ul>
<li>Would create another cluster of students possibly creating more neighborhood backlash</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Site #2 &#8211; Near Brady Street Site</strong><br />
Actual Location: 1744 N. Farwell Avenue, Southeast Corner of North Farwell Avenue and East Royall Place<br />
What’s There Now: Surface Parking Lot</p>
<p>Pros</p>
<ul>
<li>Would deliver 500 new customers to Brady Street area</li>
<li>Replaces existing surface parking lot</li>
<li>Close to entertainment for students</li>
<li>On existing bus route (30)</li>
</ul>
<p>Cons</p>
<ul>
<li>Would be furthest dorm from campus</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Site #4 &#8211; Hometown Gas Station</strong><br />
Actual Location: 1436 North Avenue<br />
What’s There Now: Abandoned gas station</p>
<p>Pros</p>
<ul>
<li>On North Avenue near entertainment district</li>
<li>On existing transit route (21)</li>
<li>Inbetween both Riverview and Kenilworth dorms</li>
<li>Next to river</li>
<li>Easy for current UWM Shuttle to stop here on route from Riverview</li>
</ul>
<p>Cons</p>
<ul>
<li>Would draw ire of many residents because of Milwaukee River Overlay District due to its spot along river</li>
<li>Nearby residents would certainly raise a fuss about parking, congestion, regardless if it were true or not.</li>
</ul>
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<p>Let the debate continue.</p>
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