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	<title>Comments on: Governor Doyle Vetoes Milwaukee County Sales Tax for Transit</title>
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		<title>By: Nathaniel Holton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathaniel Holton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 03:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don&#039;t think that the lack of a regional approach is a coherent explanation for why Doyle vetoed the Milwaukee County sales tax.  

1) With the veto, he avoids being attacked on the fact that he signed into law a sales tax in a highly populated area, and the lack of a dedicated funding source for transit might force Walker to make tough funding decisions that open Walker to attack.  

2) Maybe I&#039;m missing something, but for the life of me, I just can&#039;t figure out how a Milwaukee County sales tax, administered through a county RTA (and potentially later administered through the regional RTA or by the county itself), makes a regional approach to transit more difficult.  If anything, it brings a regional approach closer to fruition by securing a legitimate funding source in one of the counties and by improving the Milwaukee bus system whose function will be critical to the success of KRM.

3) I think people, particularly moderates, are more likely to view Doyle harshly if they&#039;re paying more (sales) taxes than they would if they merely watched the news and noticed the construction of a commuter rail line that they&#039;re not paying for.

I won&#039;t vouch for Milwaukee&#039;s leaders, but they do have a legitimate beef.  Doyle and Walker are playing politics and are using Milwaukee as a pawn in the chess game.  Rejecting the sales tax tells me that Doyle doesn&#039;t care about the welfare of Milwaukee, city or county.  The most charitable view is that Doyle is shafting Milwaukee now in order to do good for Milwaukee later, but Wisconsin&#039;s historical treatment of Milwaukee makes this theory hard to swallow.  I&#039;ll believe it when I see it.

Lastly, I haven&#039;t seen much of any discussion of the public safety portion of the killed sales tax.  That veto denies the City of Milwaukee something like $12 million/year for police and fire, money that the city desperately needs.  Wisconsin has strangled Milwaukee financially over the years by limiting Milwaukee&#039;s revenue sources in a way that prevents Milwaukee from obtaining fair revenue from nonresident freeriders, and also by creating a shared revenue scheme that disproportionately burdens Milwaukee.  Doyle vetoed an opportunity to lighten up on the strangling.  

Such treatment will surely continue for the rest of time unless Milwaukee leaders can get their act together and generate enough power to influence Wisconsin on these issues.  Pouting isn&#039;t the way to do that.  Instead of pouting, they should be reaching out to transit advocates who don&#039;t seem extremely concerned about how Milwaukee is being treated, even though SE WI transit and more fairness in Milwaukee&#039;s revenue structure both have the purposes of generating economic development and increasing quality of life in the area.  There&#039;s no reason why transit advocates and Milwaukee&#039;s leadership can&#039;t be completely aligned.  In the meantime, Doyle deserves a heap of scorn from Milwaukee residents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t think that the lack of a regional approach is a coherent explanation for why Doyle vetoed the Milwaukee County sales tax.  </p>
<p>1) With the veto, he avoids being attacked on the fact that he signed into law a sales tax in a highly populated area, and the lack of a dedicated funding source for transit might force Walker to make tough funding decisions that open Walker to attack.  </p>
<p>2) Maybe I&#8217;m missing something, but for the life of me, I just can&#8217;t figure out how a Milwaukee County sales tax, administered through a county RTA (and potentially later administered through the regional RTA or by the county itself), makes a regional approach to transit more difficult.  If anything, it brings a regional approach closer to fruition by securing a legitimate funding source in one of the counties and by improving the Milwaukee bus system whose function will be critical to the success of KRM.</p>
<p>3) I think people, particularly moderates, are more likely to view Doyle harshly if they&#8217;re paying more (sales) taxes than they would if they merely watched the news and noticed the construction of a commuter rail line that they&#8217;re not paying for.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t vouch for Milwaukee&#8217;s leaders, but they do have a legitimate beef.  Doyle and Walker are playing politics and are using Milwaukee as a pawn in the chess game.  Rejecting the sales tax tells me that Doyle doesn&#8217;t care about the welfare of Milwaukee, city or county.  The most charitable view is that Doyle is shafting Milwaukee now in order to do good for Milwaukee later, but Wisconsin&#8217;s historical treatment of Milwaukee makes this theory hard to swallow.  I&#8217;ll believe it when I see it.</p>
<p>Lastly, I haven&#8217;t seen much of any discussion of the public safety portion of the killed sales tax.  That veto denies the City of Milwaukee something like $12 million/year for police and fire, money that the city desperately needs.  Wisconsin has strangled Milwaukee financially over the years by limiting Milwaukee&#8217;s revenue sources in a way that prevents Milwaukee from obtaining fair revenue from nonresident freeriders, and also by creating a shared revenue scheme that disproportionately burdens Milwaukee.  Doyle vetoed an opportunity to lighten up on the strangling.  </p>
<p>Such treatment will surely continue for the rest of time unless Milwaukee leaders can get their act together and generate enough power to influence Wisconsin on these issues.  Pouting isn&#8217;t the way to do that.  Instead of pouting, they should be reaching out to transit advocates who don&#8217;t seem extremely concerned about how Milwaukee is being treated, even though SE WI transit and more fairness in Milwaukee&#8217;s revenue structure both have the purposes of generating economic development and increasing quality of life in the area.  There&#8217;s no reason why transit advocates and Milwaukee&#8217;s leadership can&#8217;t be completely aligned.  In the meantime, Doyle deserves a heap of scorn from Milwaukee residents.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Klein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Governor wants to score political points, then he should invite all the players except Scott Walker to a meeting in Madison and jawbone them into a solid agreement. 

Doyle needs to lock everyone in a room and not let them out until they come up with:

1. An RTA that covers  both mass transit in Milwaukee, Racine and Kenosha Counties, and KRM.
2. Provides a dedicated revenue stream to pay for mass transit that does not use property taxes.

He can speed the process by putting them in a room without food or sanitary facilities.

An even sweeter thing would be to to empower the RTA to regulate all rail, ports, airports and roads, so it could in reality plan and coordinate transportation, then give the RTA an elected board therefore defusing the no representation without representation folderol. On these two last counts I expect a complete lack of vision bordering on blindness by our elected officials of both major parties.

I have never heard Walker use the word &quot;choo-choo,&quot; only his allies and supporters. My computer dictionary gives the following definition:

Choo-Choo: noun; a child&#039;s word for a railroad train or locomotive, esp. a steam engine.

In Wisconsin politics it is childish word used by childish people who are unwilling to have an adult debate regarding transit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Governor wants to score political points, then he should invite all the players except Scott Walker to a meeting in Madison and jawbone them into a solid agreement. </p>
<p>Doyle needs to lock everyone in a room and not let them out until they come up with:</p>
<p>1. An RTA that covers  both mass transit in Milwaukee, Racine and Kenosha Counties, and KRM.<br />
2. Provides a dedicated revenue stream to pay for mass transit that does not use property taxes.</p>
<p>He can speed the process by putting them in a room without food or sanitary facilities.</p>
<p>An even sweeter thing would be to to empower the RTA to regulate all rail, ports, airports and roads, so it could in reality plan and coordinate transportation, then give the RTA an elected board therefore defusing the no representation without representation folderol. On these two last counts I expect a complete lack of vision bordering on blindness by our elected officials of both major parties.</p>
<p>I have never heard Walker use the word &#8220;choo-choo,&#8221; only his allies and supporters. My computer dictionary gives the following definition:</p>
<p>Choo-Choo: noun; a child&#8217;s word for a railroad train or locomotive, esp. a steam engine.</p>
<p>In Wisconsin politics it is childish word used by childish people who are unwilling to have an adult debate regarding transit.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your caucus blew that by playig partisan politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your caucus blew that by playig partisan politics.</p>
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