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		<title>By: Dave Reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cory Oh, you&#039;re definitely right there are issues, and I&#039;m partial to the substation idea as well.  And it&#039;s true a lot of times &quot;the economy&quot; is an excuse (sometimes by bad business owners when they fail too), though some of the closing were certainly connected to the what&#039;s going on in the U.S. right now.. Linen N Things for example closed all their stores I believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cory Oh, you&#8217;re definitely right there are issues, and I&#8217;m partial to the substation idea as well.  And it&#8217;s true a lot of times &#8220;the economy&#8221; is an excuse (sometimes by bad business owners when they fail too), though some of the closing were certainly connected to the what&#8217;s going on in the U.S. right now.. Linen N Things for example closed all their stores I believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Cory Triolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cory Triolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I wish the economy were the problem with regard to Grand Avenue. I have previously managed and owned businesses in that mall almost from its inception through 1993 when things took a dramatic turn for the worse. I work in finance, and I can honestly say that while the economy has a strong impact on retail, there are a number of retailers posting gains of around 4% average compared to comp same store sales last year. We have come to blame the economy for many things. For example, it is easier for a company to say that, in the interest of shareholders, they cannot afford to pay a Christmas bonus due to economic conditions. It sounds much better.

If you read the blog labelscar.com, type in Grand Avenue. You will see a list of several malls, and if you scroll down about six headings, you will see Grand Avenue. If you click on the comments, you will see about 113 comments, many of which are mine, under the moniker CoryTJ. I detail the history of the mall, including a roster of hundreds of stores that have come and gone in Grand Avenue, as well as my suggestions for the mall. I still think the presence of a satellite police terminal in the lower level of Grand Avenue would serve to promote a sense of safety in the mall, as well as a positive energy from increased traffic. Furthermore, I think Grand Avenue could benefit from housing service oriented businesses and government agencies. How about a &quot;DMV Express&quot;, for those that have simple license renewal issues.  A USPS counter at the mall would serve to bring an influx of traffic. A FedEx Office housed in conjunction with a cafe area complete with meeting areas and laptop-friendly wi-fi terminals would be a welcomed addition for businessmen. It could fill a void as a &quot;one-stop-shop&quot; to transact business with vendors that might choose the adjacent Marriott Hotels as their housing destination.  For example, I had to recently meet with a 401K vendor I work with. He stayed at the Courtyard. It would have been ideal for me to have been able to meet with him and compile all our presentation materials right there in the center, rather than have him come to my office and fend for parking. Grand Avenue desperately needs businesses and services that will appeal to the people with the fiscal ability to support the center. The mall does not need knock -off hip hop clothing vendors, cell phone kiosks, and nail salons that detract from the landscape of the area, and do not effectively target the clientele that could potentially utilize Grand Avenue. Let&#039;s be creative here, as well. Milwaukee does NOT need another &quot;lifestyle center&quot; like Bayshore, which I think will ultimately fail when the novelty of the concept has run its course. 

In my opinion, Grand Avenue started its decline with the departure of the management team under Steve Smith. Steve used to walk the mall every morning with the management team. He was militant. Not a single burnt out lightbulb would escape his attention. The mall security under Fernando Perez did an excellent job of maintaining order in the center. The &quot;glory days&quot; of Grand Avenue are gone, because the &quot;glory&quot; is gone. There is absolutely no pride taken in the facility anymore. Is there even music piped into the common areas anymore? The mall&#039;s current owner, Ashkenazy Acquisitions has done little, if anything,  to capitalize on the opportunities offered by the unique center. Rouse was a horrible company to work with, and they didn&#039;t compromise on rents, but I fear Ashkenazy may be even more an obstacle. You would have to ask one of the current tenants that has been there since the mall&#039;s inception. If any of the Kepplers are reading this, I&#039;d be interested to hear their weigh-in on The Grand Avenue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I wish the economy were the problem with regard to Grand Avenue. I have previously managed and owned businesses in that mall almost from its inception through 1993 when things took a dramatic turn for the worse. I work in finance, and I can honestly say that while the economy has a strong impact on retail, there are a number of retailers posting gains of around 4% average compared to comp same store sales last year. We have come to blame the economy for many things. For example, it is easier for a company to say that, in the interest of shareholders, they cannot afford to pay a Christmas bonus due to economic conditions. It sounds much better.</p>
<p>If you read the blog labelscar.com, type in Grand Avenue. You will see a list of several malls, and if you scroll down about six headings, you will see Grand Avenue. If you click on the comments, you will see about 113 comments, many of which are mine, under the moniker CoryTJ. I detail the history of the mall, including a roster of hundreds of stores that have come and gone in Grand Avenue, as well as my suggestions for the mall. I still think the presence of a satellite police terminal in the lower level of Grand Avenue would serve to promote a sense of safety in the mall, as well as a positive energy from increased traffic. Furthermore, I think Grand Avenue could benefit from housing service oriented businesses and government agencies. How about a &#8220;DMV Express&#8221;, for those that have simple license renewal issues.  A USPS counter at the mall would serve to bring an influx of traffic. A FedEx Office housed in conjunction with a cafe area complete with meeting areas and laptop-friendly wi-fi terminals would be a welcomed addition for businessmen. It could fill a void as a &#8220;one-stop-shop&#8221; to transact business with vendors that might choose the adjacent Marriott Hotels as their housing destination.  For example, I had to recently meet with a 401K vendor I work with. He stayed at the Courtyard. It would have been ideal for me to have been able to meet with him and compile all our presentation materials right there in the center, rather than have him come to my office and fend for parking. Grand Avenue desperately needs businesses and services that will appeal to the people with the fiscal ability to support the center. The mall does not need knock -off hip hop clothing vendors, cell phone kiosks, and nail salons that detract from the landscape of the area, and do not effectively target the clientele that could potentially utilize Grand Avenue. Let&#8217;s be creative here, as well. Milwaukee does NOT need another &#8220;lifestyle center&#8221; like Bayshore, which I think will ultimately fail when the novelty of the concept has run its course. </p>
<p>In my opinion, Grand Avenue started its decline with the departure of the management team under Steve Smith. Steve used to walk the mall every morning with the management team. He was militant. Not a single burnt out lightbulb would escape his attention. The mall security under Fernando Perez did an excellent job of maintaining order in the center. The &#8220;glory days&#8221; of Grand Avenue are gone, because the &#8220;glory&#8221; is gone. There is absolutely no pride taken in the facility anymore. Is there even music piped into the common areas anymore? The mall&#8217;s current owner, Ashkenazy Acquisitions has done little, if anything,  to capitalize on the opportunities offered by the unique center. Rouse was a horrible company to work with, and they didn&#8217;t compromise on rents, but I fear Ashkenazy may be even more an obstacle. You would have to ask one of the current tenants that has been there since the mall&#8217;s inception. If any of the Kepplers are reading this, I&#8217;d be interested to hear their weigh-in on The Grand Avenue.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cory Triolo It is sad, though I&#039;d guess it likely has more to do with the economy.</description>
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		<title>By: Cory Triolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cory Triolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like more stores are leaving the Grand Avenue. Now the New Arcade side is emptying out. How sad.</description>
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		<title>By: Cory Triolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cory Triolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Ashkenazy doing anything to improve this property and sign new tenants? It just keeps spiraling downward. I see no efforts being made whatsoever. The mall marketing director is totally green, and in my opinion is making a fool of herself with her &quot;bubble gum&quot; comments to the press. &quot;We can&#039;t say who the new tenant is, because the ink isn&#039;t dry yet.&quot; Sweetheart, let&#039;s be honest: the pen was never out.  She has also raced around to other malls, talking to former owners of boutique shops, some of which were long-time tenants of Grand Avenue Mall that had left some time ago. Does this woman not do any homework? I feel sorry for her. Ashkenazy has not given her any mall history, so if she doesn&#039;t understand the former culture of the mall, how can she be effective in finding qualified tenants. 

Ashkenazy, you talk a big game, but you are more useless than Simon Group when it comes to neglecting their &quot;C&quot; tier malls. Hey, get off your asses and DO something! Read labelscar.com. Many people have posted very meaningful entries on the history of the mall, as well as future ideas to bring this mall back from the brink of extinction. And some of the ideas are quite noteworthy. Hail Grand Avenue, the next Machesney Park Mall, and future addition to deadmalls.com. Thanks Ashkenazy, for bringing all of your self-touted &quot;talent&quot; and &quot;expertise&quot; to Milwaukee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Ashkenazy doing anything to improve this property and sign new tenants? It just keeps spiraling downward. I see no efforts being made whatsoever. The mall marketing director is totally green, and in my opinion is making a fool of herself with her &#8220;bubble gum&#8221; comments to the press. &#8220;We can&#8217;t say who the new tenant is, because the ink isn&#8217;t dry yet.&#8221; Sweetheart, let&#8217;s be honest: the pen was never out.  She has also raced around to other malls, talking to former owners of boutique shops, some of which were long-time tenants of Grand Avenue Mall that had left some time ago. Does this woman not do any homework? I feel sorry for her. Ashkenazy has not given her any mall history, so if she doesn&#8217;t understand the former culture of the mall, how can she be effective in finding qualified tenants. </p>
<p>Ashkenazy, you talk a big game, but you are more useless than Simon Group when it comes to neglecting their &#8220;C&#8221; tier malls. Hey, get off your asses and DO something! Read labelscar.com. Many people have posted very meaningful entries on the history of the mall, as well as future ideas to bring this mall back from the brink of extinction. And some of the ideas are quite noteworthy. Hail Grand Avenue, the next Machesney Park Mall, and future addition to deadmalls.com. Thanks Ashkenazy, for bringing all of your self-touted &#8220;talent&#8221; and &#8220;expertise&#8221; to Milwaukee.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 21:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with that. To move into the future, Milwaukee must have a strong shopping destination. Grand Ave. is architecturally amazing, and isn&#039;t so large of a center that you&#039;re constantly filling vacancies. However, it will take a while before large chain retailers take the chance on this mall, when they see the household income averages out near the suburban areas. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a matter of what the mall management wants to do...it&#039;s more a matter of re-buidling, one retailer at a time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with that. To move into the future, Milwaukee must have a strong shopping destination. Grand Ave. is architecturally amazing, and isn&#8217;t so large of a center that you&#8217;re constantly filling vacancies. However, it will take a while before large chain retailers take the chance on this mall, when they see the household income averages out near the suburban areas. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a matter of what the mall management wants to do&#8230;it&#8217;s more a matter of re-buidling, one retailer at a time.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish that the Shops at Grand Avenue would be built up more with some bigger labels or even some useful local labels. I really don&#039;t like the fact that you have to leave the downtown area to go to some of these places to get things done. I moved here from San Francisco and before that I lived in Philadelphia, New York City, and Washington DC, so I would love to see Milwaukee take that step and bring this city into the future.This is a beautiful building that has so much potential and I surely am one that even if the items cost slightly more, I would still pay it to not have to leave the downtown area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish that the Shops at Grand Avenue would be built up more with some bigger labels or even some useful local labels. I really don&#8217;t like the fact that you have to leave the downtown area to go to some of these places to get things done. I moved here from San Francisco and before that I lived in Philadelphia, New York City, and Washington DC, so I would love to see Milwaukee take that step and bring this city into the future.This is a beautiful building that has so much potential and I surely am one that even if the items cost slightly more, I would still pay it to not have to leave the downtown area.</p>
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		<title>By: Cory Triolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cory Triolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought about entering Ashkenazy&#039;s &quot;Retail Therapy&quot; contest for one year&#039;s free base rent. But it requires a two year commitment, with the second year being 8% of sales, plus other ancillary charges (in both years). And Ashkenazy gets to pick the location in the mall. Gee, I wonder where that would be. Upper level, Plankinton Arcade, buried in the hallway leading to the Marriott? I&#039;ve already had businesses in Grand Avenue and the traffic is just not there. The mall needs to be reconfigured, and to leverage Ashkenazy&#039;s other properties to get Grand Avenue rented. It must package Grand Ave as a pre-requisite location for space in some of its more attractive centers. Stores need to face Wisconsin Avenue with access from the street. The parking garages need to be relocated across the street, on the block where the former Gimbels parking structure is located. That entire block could be annexed. The current Grand Ave garages could be leveled to make room for two more mid-tier anchors like JC Penny or Van Maur,  and a grocery store like Sendiks. Stores could be built to compliment the anchors and face outward toward Michigan Ave. TJ Maxx could be moved to one of the anchor spots. A satellite police station could be housed in the basement of the Plankinton Arcade where Patricia Stevens Career College used to be, to establish a presence in the mall. A counter for the post office could be housed in the Plankinton Arcade, as well as a DMV counter with limited services. These changes might drive traffic to the mall. Decor could incorporate Milwaukee&#039;s historic past, rather than the goofy outdated, non-themed interior. Music needs to again resonate through the hallways. A sense of interest, activity, and excitement needs to be cultivated. General Growth has filed for bankruptcy. It would be a great time to make Steve Smith an offer he couldn&#039;t refuse to come back as General Manager of Grand Avenue. The man has talent, and he managed to get the center leased under his leadership. When he went to Mayfair, Grand Avenue suffered.  And finally give the place a new name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought about entering Ashkenazy&#8217;s &#8220;Retail Therapy&#8221; contest for one year&#8217;s free base rent. But it requires a two year commitment, with the second year being 8% of sales, plus other ancillary charges (in both years). And Ashkenazy gets to pick the location in the mall. Gee, I wonder where that would be. Upper level, Plankinton Arcade, buried in the hallway leading to the Marriott? I&#8217;ve already had businesses in Grand Avenue and the traffic is just not there. The mall needs to be reconfigured, and to leverage Ashkenazy&#8217;s other properties to get Grand Avenue rented. It must package Grand Ave as a pre-requisite location for space in some of its more attractive centers. Stores need to face Wisconsin Avenue with access from the street. The parking garages need to be relocated across the street, on the block where the former Gimbels parking structure is located. That entire block could be annexed. The current Grand Ave garages could be leveled to make room for two more mid-tier anchors like JC Penny or Van Maur,  and a grocery store like Sendiks. Stores could be built to compliment the anchors and face outward toward Michigan Ave. TJ Maxx could be moved to one of the anchor spots. A satellite police station could be housed in the basement of the Plankinton Arcade where Patricia Stevens Career College used to be, to establish a presence in the mall. A counter for the post office could be housed in the Plankinton Arcade, as well as a DMV counter with limited services. These changes might drive traffic to the mall. Decor could incorporate Milwaukee&#8217;s historic past, rather than the goofy outdated, non-themed interior. Music needs to again resonate through the hallways. A sense of interest, activity, and excitement needs to be cultivated. General Growth has filed for bankruptcy. It would be a great time to make Steve Smith an offer he couldn&#8217;t refuse to come back as General Manager of Grand Avenue. The man has talent, and he managed to get the center leased under his leadership. When he went to Mayfair, Grand Avenue suffered.  And finally give the place a new name.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Martin My point about IKEA is they, to my knowledge, don&#039;t have an urban store and it is almost impossible to get companies to deviate from their base design.  So an IKEA just isn&#039;t a likely option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Martin My point about IKEA is they, to my knowledge, don&#8217;t have an urban store and it is almost impossible to get companies to deviate from their base design.  So an IKEA just isn&#8217;t a likely option.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, I have not heard of an urban-friendly IKEA store design. Every IKEA store in the US thus far is literally a &quot;big box&quot; surrounded by parking lot. On the other hand, IKEA is a European company, and I can&#039;t imagine the US store design working out in a city such as Munich or Stockholm. Plus, even if IKEA doesn&#039;t have such a store design, it could easily be a possibility for their future development into the US market. Their furniture definitely has an &quot;urban&quot; feel to it, so when they are expanding into heavily urbanized markets (such as New York, Chicago, or San Francisco), an urban store design would definitely help them. If Milwaukee would be the first such design, its success could then be applied to other urban markets. 

And of course, IKEA is not the only option. I definitely agree with Jermaine--there are many other companies that have yet to make an appearance in the Milwaukee area that would attract customers from across the region like IKEA would. But which would have a similar draw? I&#039;m not really sure about that. Does anyone have ideas on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, I have not heard of an urban-friendly IKEA store design. Every IKEA store in the US thus far is literally a &#8220;big box&#8221; surrounded by parking lot. On the other hand, IKEA is a European company, and I can&#8217;t imagine the US store design working out in a city such as Munich or Stockholm. Plus, even if IKEA doesn&#8217;t have such a store design, it could easily be a possibility for their future development into the US market. Their furniture definitely has an &#8220;urban&#8221; feel to it, so when they are expanding into heavily urbanized markets (such as New York, Chicago, or San Francisco), an urban store design would definitely help them. If Milwaukee would be the first such design, its success could then be applied to other urban markets. </p>
<p>And of course, IKEA is not the only option. I definitely agree with Jermaine&#8211;there are many other companies that have yet to make an appearance in the Milwaukee area that would attract customers from across the region like IKEA would. But which would have a similar draw? I&#8217;m not really sure about that. Does anyone have ideas on this?</p>
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